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Obama? Yay.

Democratic Senate gains? Yay.

Democratic house gains? Yay.

I'm going to send a letter, though, to my representative, my senators and the democratic leadership. Don't squander this chance. Don't make this into the first two years of the Carter administration. Don't make this into the first two years of the Clinton administration. Don't make this into the first two years of the second W administration (he had it his way in 2004-2006, or he should have). Come together. Work on reform. Work with the moderate Republicans; some of them have good ideas and might agree with you on some things. Drive legislation.

Prop 8? Not so yay. There's an estimated 3,000,000 uncounted mail-in and provisional ballots, though. There's still a slim chance that the proposition could be defeated if those ballots skew the right direction.

If you voted "yes" on Prop 8, you voted to end my marriage. I will not forgive that.

If you are crying in your beer about Prop 8's likely passage, and were eligible to vote in California but didn't vote against it, Prop 8's victory is your fault. I will not forgive that.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] howlgirl.livejournal.com
The joy of Obama's win last night has turned to ashes today.

I voted no on 8, for more friends than I can count.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gigica.livejournal.com
I voted No on 8. And today all I can think about is you and Kevin.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] mishalak.livejournal.com
It is time to move forward. As soon as there are final numbers on the number of people who voted by age then I'm going to make a spreadsheet that will predict when enough old people have passed away and been replaced by young voters to run a successful repeal campaign. I don't live in California, but I clearly see that it is a necessary prerequisite for someday having marriage in Colorado so I'm going to fight for this. And even with crappy youth turn out someday soon we're going to have a majority of voters.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jkusters
Yep.

Date: 2008-11-05 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-sawyer.livejournal.com
It felt very good voting against that shit.

The christian guy here at work is very subdued today.

He's black, and I know he was voting Obama. I can't help that he might be feeling guilty about voting for prop hate.

Date: 2008-11-05 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theresamather.livejournal.com
I'm very sad, especially that so many people in my state who should have known full well about discrimination over marriage issues contributed to this nasty campaign in your state.

Date: 2008-11-05 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nebula5.livejournal.com
If I could have voted as a non-California-resident, you know how I would have voted. Although actually, from a distance, I assumed it would fail with no trouble, so I was extremely disappointed to see it passing. I don't understand why so many people would vote so irrationally.

Date: 2008-11-05 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madoc62.livejournal.com
Andy & all,

Well, my "No On 8" is amongst those three million absentee ballots.

Also, there's this to consider:

http://volokh.com/archives/archive_2008_11_02-2008_11_08.shtml#1225923130

Basically, he advances the argument that the "Yes On 8" proposition is invalid on its face as it is actually and _AMENDMENT_ to the state's constitution and not a revision. Thus it is illegal per the state's constitution.

Drop on over there and check out his arguments in support of this view.

It might take a while to hammer through the courts but at least it's something to pursue.

Madoc

Date: 2008-11-05 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kaijugal.livejournal.com

My mind boggles at this leap back.

:(

Best wishes that it will all work out favourably somehow
for you and your beau.

I've got your back...

Date: 2008-11-06 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] karisu-sama.livejournal.com
If you voted "yes" on Prop 8, you voted to end my marriage. I will not forgive that.

If you are crying in your beer about Prop 8's likely passage, and were eligible to vote in California but didn't vote against it, Prop 8's victory is your fault. I will not forgive that.


I will not forgive that either.

Date: 2008-11-06 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hockeycat.livejournal.com
I am not in CA, but I voted against Prop 8's equivalent (Prop 102) here in AZ. Unfortunately, Prop 102 passed here, too.

I think it's a crock of bull. Yes, I am very happily married myself. Why shouldn't you & K be afforded the same rights? How does your right to be legally joined affect my right to the same? It doesn't. But people are dumbf*cks, and can't tell their heads from their arses.

/sigh

I am sorry, I really am.

Date: 2008-11-06 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] semy-of-pearls.livejournal.com
I did vote.

I voted against Prop 8. So did my mother, and she is Catholic.

I am willing to sign petitions to repeal prop 8 as unconstitutional and a threat to civil rights.

I am in a heterosexual marriage and a mother. I find gay marriage to be a threat to neither.

This isn't over, and I'm willing to fight.

Date: 2008-11-07 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thirdworld.livejournal.com
I'm with you. While this election was a milestone for black-white relations and the African American community at large, exit polls suggest that, as was projected before the election, Hispanics and African Americans voted mostly Yes and whites voted mostly no. So prejudice against one group is coming from other groups suffering prejudice - an age-old human condition. But my pleasure at these elections went down two thirds, after hearing about prop 8 - the only campaign I sent money to this year. 4 measures country-wide, all reinforcing prejudice. It's wrong and serves as a reminder to all those foolish Utopians out there, that this election is but a step on a much longer journey, and there is much still to be fought for.

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