There's some talk of secession here in red state land. They should just let some of these dirt poor red states secede- they take far more in federal money than they pay in. Let a couple of them degenerate into the third world pits they will instantly become without the tax money of the wealthy blue states to gorge on, and that ought to teach the sponge states like Utah that are a net drain on the nation to at least be grateful for the pork they gorge on.